I had a thought the other day. A thought that led me to make a calculation. A calculation that led me to more thoughts.
I am 26 years old. For 14 of those years I lived in Africa; 6 years in the U.K. and 6 years in Greece. While the blood running through my veins is one hundred percent Greek; I am not. According to my calculation I am actually 23% Greek, 23 % British and 54% African. That’s if you lean on the nurture part of the debate.
If like me, you think that nature and nurture both contribute equally then my Greekness will rise to about 60%. I think that is pretty accurate. Most days I do feel a little more than half Greek with my heart tucked away in the purple trees of the flattest city I have ever seen. I don’t feel at all British except that it is the only thing that can account for the inexplicable love I hold for grey weather, mashed potato and Top Gear. And of course Topshop (But everyone loves Topshop so that does not count!)
When I returned to Greece a little over a year ago, I told myself that this time it would be different. This time I would immerse myself in the culture. I would read Greek magazines and Greek newspapers and write in Greek and talk in Greek and then I would BE Greek. 100% Greek. Accepted as Greek by other Greek Greeks.
Though my intentions were good and while my attempts were many, I gave up after the fourth month. It is hard living in a country that you should feel comfortable in, but don’t. It is hard to live in a country where you should belong by name and nationality alone, but don’t.
My whole life I have felt like an outsider looking in. At school I was the ‘Greek girl’, in Greece I am ‘kseni’ (the foreigner). When I speak English, most Greeks assume I am American. When I speak Greek, they look at me and say, “You’re not from here, are you?”
When I first started blogging, I hoped that I would be able to meet other like-minded people. And I did. All those people that leave comments relate to my experiences and I cherish that more than I could ever really articulate.
But, I always feel that difference. Take a look at my blogroll. I read two, TWO bloggers from Greece. The rest are all American and Canadian (Hi y’all!) They celebrate Halloween and Thanksgiving and watch the NFL and eat stuff I have never heard of and listen to country music and buy clothes from shops I don’t know and live in similar time zones and write States with their acronyms ONLY which then takes me ages to figure out where they went to university college. (Thank heavens for T.V shows. When you talk about those, I understand!)
Outside, looking in. Again.
Yet, I wouldn’t change it for the world. I heart all your comments and I heart all your blogs. (Heart-ing is one thing I have picked up from blogging that is now part of my repertoire that I could not live without.) What I would change if I could is the amount of hits I get from Greece. So, if you’re reading this from Greece (28% of you are) leave me a comment. Leave me a comment and point me in the direction of another Greek personal blogger.
I don’t want to be on the outside anymore.
22 responses so far ↓
Chris // November 7, 2007 at 10:22 pm
I don’t know if you’ll find this funny or ironic, but you’re the only Greek blogger I read regularly. Although almost all of my (Greek) friends use the internet, none of them have a blog or a journal, at least that I’m aware of. I guess they’re just not the blogging kind. Like you, I read many blogs of people I met and befriended on the net, mostly Americans with a few other nationalities thrown in for variety. I do look for Greek blogs when there’s something I’m interested to see what other Greeks think about; that’s how I came by your blog (through a Google search but for the life of me I can’t remember what I was looking for :P). It goes without saying that I liked what I read enough to make you earn a spot in my Bookmarks. So feel special for being the first (and for the moment the only) Greek blogger I follow :) (and for what it’s worth, I DO feel like I’m reading the blog of a Greek girl, I don’t get any “outsider” vibes from you. Of course there are things that show the difference in your… nurture as you call it, but in my opinion they make reading your entries much more interesting and enjoyable).
So unfortunately I don’t have any Greek blogs to direct you to, but if any of my Greek friends ask me to recommend a personal blog to them, I’ll be more than happy to point them your way.
Stephanie // November 7, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Loved this post!! What has led you to live in so many different places?
Devious Diva // November 7, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Heart you too.
Sorry, I also have no blogs to point you to but I would like to repost this to see if anyone has a better response for you. Is that OK ?
I know how you feel. This post really spoke to me. Thank you
Hope // November 7, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Chris: Was that you googling “Do Greek women like men in tight jeans?” ;) But seriously, thanks for you comment. It means a lot to me!
Steph: Family, school and I guess life! Sometimes, it just takes you to places you never thought you would go.
DD: That would be great if you could I’d be indebted to you. :)
AntigoneSis // November 8, 2007 at 4:46 am
I think some of us will feel on the outside at times no matter what. I should definitely feel like a part of the fold after having married into a relatively close and functional family. But there are many moments when I feel like an alien even though we all share the same Greek heritage and somewhat similar American upbringing. I’m beginning to think that I like it that way! Good luck on your quest to find fellow Greek bloggers. I’m sure DD can put you in the right direction.
libby // November 8, 2007 at 7:08 am
aww! if its any consolation -i have like, 2 other canadians…maybe 3 on my b-roll. so i get the whole on the outs sometimes with my friends south of the border. hope you get to meet some other greeks!!
Princess Pointful // November 8, 2007 at 10:01 am
While I cannot sympathize, being a 100% Canadian by both of your standards, it is an issue that has come up for many of my friends, as I live in a super ethnically diverse city. Everyone is so quick to label, without even checking if it fits first.
Bollybutton // November 8, 2007 at 2:18 pm
I swear I could have written this. 14 years in Asia, 10 in the UK, 1.5 in Greece. I like you was never ‘proper’ Asian, so no matter where I went I was sort of on the outside. I wonder what it would be like to be in a country and think “this is my homeland” or to feel patriotic. I wonder what having a solid ethnic/cultural identity feels like.
But after all these years I have reconciled myself to the fact that I am never going to be on the inside anywhere, I will never feel like I belong anywhere. And I’m okay with that now. You will be too. *hugs*
Chris // November 8, 2007 at 2:51 pm
Hope: Come on, no self-respecting Greek guy would need to google that ;)
cdp // November 8, 2007 at 6:34 pm
I’m definitely not reading you from Greece although I definitely wish I were.
And I think a lot of us have that outside-looking-in feeling a lot. Personally I’d just love to know what sort of accent you speak with!
This was a great post!
Hope Dies Last at THIS IS NOT MY COUNTRY // November 8, 2007 at 7:09 pm
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The Lisa Show // November 8, 2007 at 7:24 pm
It sounds so fascinating, living everywhere. I feel the same way a lot. I don’t read a lot of local blogs either.
silvia // November 8, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I like this. If I apply the same logic to my life it would go like this… i’m 25, lived 2 yrs in China (born there, 100% chinese blood), 16 in Peru and 7 in Canada… so i’m 8% Chinese, 64% Peruvian and 28% Canadian?… I can relate to being an “outsider looking in”… great post
DG // November 8, 2007 at 9:43 pm
You and Clink are my greek blogging-friends. And I love it :)
Lisa // November 8, 2007 at 10:17 pm
You lived in Africa for 14 years! That’s fantastic!
It’s kind of cool how people would, due to geography, would NEVER meet, can now be friends! Yay!
Devious Diva // November 8, 2007 at 11:46 pm
I have so many friends around the world now who know no borders, it’s wonderful.
jiger // November 9, 2007 at 1:14 am
Hey Hope. I am at a different situ. I was born and lived in Greece until I was 16 then I moved to Australia for 15 years. Now I have been back for 3 and a bit. Di I fit in? Dunno. I don’t think I ever did even before I left. So, if you aspire to watching trashy TV (Liakopoulos you are my hero!!!), reading trashy press and wanting to get it, maybe, just maybe, you ain’t getting it because it just ain’t there girl! Be yourself and the ones who can will learn from you, not the other way around!
oo
Paul // November 9, 2007 at 10:20 am
Hey Hope,
You might be interested in my blog. It is about my two little girls Emily and Phoebe, who are half Greek and half English and live in Athens. It’s really just for family and friends, but you’re welcome to drop by if you like!
betabug // November 9, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Hey Hope,
myself I could maybe claim some percentage of being Greek, but I don’t. Why bother? I live here, I like living here, I even blog here. I’m the swiss guy, much more than I was when I was living in Switzerland. But that’s just a small part of a classification of myself.
One of the (not so very serious) books I like very much is Neal Stephenson’s “The Diamond Age”. It’s some kind of retro-scifi world there. The interesting part is that people discovered that race and nationality are not so much the defining factor. Instead they have come to the conclusion (or evolution got them there) that cultural factors and surroundings define and bind a person much more. So the people have formed more or less synthetic “phyles”. They bind themselves to their phyle’s laws and support each other.
Well, my “phyle” so to speak, is also being a geek, a hacker (no, not a computer criminal). Hacker culture values nationalities (and even where you live) only as a very peripheral thing. So you live in Greece? Interesting, not more. How much I can provide useful information and code to others defines me much more. “We reject kings, presidents and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code” and all that. So I have friends from all over the world, as well as from here in Greece.
Those american and canadian bloggers, they are part of your phyle, just maybe nobody went and pronounced that distinction yet. It’s also a very loose coupling, nobody puts up any laws about it. Don’t let it bother you. Yo do not only have a nationality, you also have a cultural nation that you are part of.
Keep you the good writing! Regards, betabug
betabug // November 9, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Ups, that would have been “Keep up the good writing!”
Louise // November 12, 2007 at 11:37 am
I think there are more of us out there than you think (or that I knew of, anyway). I spent 18 years in Asia – don’t look “asian”, 10 years each in 2 different North-Western European countries and now am married in Greece with two little Greek children! So what am I? What are my children?
The two “greek” blogs I read are Ellas Devil http://ellasdevil.blogspot.com/ and Surviving Athens http://survivingathens.blogspot.com/. And yours.
Hellenic Nationalist blog // January 5, 2008 at 8:27 am
Hello.
I love you,
Won’t you tell me your name?